Concealed Carry has been in effect since the mid 90’s in Oklahoma, and Open Carry was adopted in 2012. However, I never really considered going number two while supporting the number two amendment might pose some serious challenges. Colion Noir talks poop and guns in his latest vid, check it out:
Sound off in the comments below if you have some good ideas for concealed carry whilst pooping.
Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America has set its sights on grocery giant Kroger,petitioning the national chain to prohibit the open carry of guns in its stores.
In a statement released Aug. 18, the gun control group backed by former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg referenced recent gun-related incidences and open carry demonstrations at Kroger-owned stores as reasons for the president and CEO Michael Ellis to “make a clear statement that the open carry of firearms is not welcome in its stores.”
“The history of shootings at Kroger stores underscores the risk of allowing open carry demonstrations and rallies to continue,” said Shannon Watts, founder of MDA. “It’s impossible for any employee to ascertain the intentions of an individual carrying an assault rifle — and given the potentially deadly outcome of mistaking a criminal for a protester, or vice versa, it is imperative that the largest supermarket retailer in the nation stands up for public safety.”
“Given how lax the majority of states’ open carry laws are, there is no way for store employees or Kroger’s loyal customers to know whether these gun extremists are good guys or bad guys,” Watts added.
Kroger, which owns 17 brands that are responsible for $98.4 billion in sales in fiscal 2013, released a response Aug. 15 on its website, stating:
“The safety of our customers and associates is one of our most important company values. Millions of customers are present in our busy grocery stores every day and we don’t want to put our associates in a position of having to confront a customer who is legally carrying a gun. That is why our long-standing policy on this issue is to follow state and local laws and to ask customers to be respectful of others while shopping. We know that our customers are passionate on both sides of this issue and we trust them to be responsible in our stores.”
Moms said there has been at least 16 threats at stores around the country, and cited three specific incidences all from this year. The first in Marietta, Georgia, where woman shot and killed her husband before killing herself. Another in Lawrenceville, Georgia, where a man opened fire, shooting two people. And the last, a woman in Nashville, Tennessee, threatened to shoot and kill an employee.
Additionally, open carry groups, like Open Carry Texas, have a history of promoting photographs and videos on social media of its members carrying rifles and shotguns in national retailers and restaurants — something Moms has used to its advantage.
Since renowned brands like Chipotle, Sonic, Chili’s, Jack in the Box, Target and Starbucks have responded to Moms, OCT has seemingly given up on unannounced demonstrations and has since scrubbed the imagery from its social media pages.
In response, OCT shared the story via Facebook, with the introduction: “They’re at it again, but for other reason than ‘they don’t have an anti-gun policy.’ #guncontrolextremists are pathetic. Bloomberg is licking his wounds on recent defeats in elections and legislatures and is returning to business bullying.”
Guns.com contacted OCT for comment, but did not receive a response in time for publication.
Open Carry vs. Concealed Carry: When is it appropriate? with Jerry Miculek
An online outlet claims that Target is apparently paying attention to gun control groups and seriously considering a sweeping ban on firearms except for law enforcement.
This broad ban may end up being a formal policy change that could even result in stores posted. The reasons are likely due to the fact that they were targeted by the gun control groups and then someone, likely a shoplifter based on the evidence released so far, left a gun behind in the toy aisle of a Target store in South Carolina.
Because of the combination of events, Target is getting a lot more media than other outlets ever received on this issue. I would strongly suggest that if you don’t want Target stores posted, call them at 1-800-440-0680 (menu choice 2 for “store experience”) and let them know that as a lawful gun owner, especially if you carry concealed, you would appreciate it if they didn’t ban guns because a criminal misused one. Feel free to fill their email box as well atGuest.Relations@Target.com.
I will say this to Target:
I will be seriously grumpy if I have to stop spending money with you because you tell me that the gun I lawfully carry concealed isn’t welcome. I would disclose how much I spend on bags and jewelry there, not to mention the very pretty peacock cards that I’ve been sending out like crazy lately, but then I’d probably have to answer to Sebastian on that issue. Just know that I’m definitely a contributor to your bottom line, as well as a lawful gun owner. Regardless, I will vote with my wallet if you tell me that I am not welcome in your stores just because I own and lawfully carry a firearm.
UPDATE: It looks like the local grassroots are also taking notice and asking people to call in/email their opposition to a sweeping anti-gun policy.
Chris Cox, the venerable executive director of the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association, took one on the chin yesterday, openly admitting that his department got it wrong on the Open Carry Texas movement.
“The truth is an alert went out that referred to this type of behavior as weird or somehow not normal, and that was a mistake. It shouldn’t have happened,” Cox told NRA radio hostCam Edwards on Tuesday on a NRA News show.
“I’ve had a discussion with the staffer who wrote that piece and expressed his personal opinion. And our job is not to criticize the lawful behavior of fellow gun owners. Our job is to effectuate policy changes that expands and protects our members’ right of self-defense. So this is a distraction, certainly the media has had a field day with it,” Cox added.
For those unfamiliar with the Open Carry Texas movement, it’s helpful to know who’s who and what’s what.
There are two Open Carry Texas philosophies or core strategies employed by two different Open Carry Texas organizations. While both organizations lawfully tote long guns during demonstrations as a way to bring awareness to the state law that prohibits the open carry of handguns and to normalize the practice of openly carrying any firearm, they go about it differently.
Put quite simply, Open Carry Texas, the founding group with several chapters throughout the Lone Star State believes in alerting local law enforcement before holding events and making conscious efforts to alleviate public concern by displaying banners and signs with the Open Carry Texas logo during rallies.
Open Carry Tarrant County, which used to fall under the Open Carry Texas umbrella, recently split with Open Carry Texas because its leadership does not believe in alerting authorities before planning demonstrations believing that they’ve done enough activism on this issue in their respective district so that it’s no longer warranted.
Open Carry Tarrant County’s unannounced way of doing things has precipitated backlash not only from the mainstream media but also from the gun community because some argue that its tactics of showing up at local fast-food chains and restaurants announced, armed with long guns, has backfired in that thanks to the advocacy of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, which has capitalized off the controversy surrounding these demonstrations, corporations like Chipotle, Jack in the Box, Sonic and Chili’s have all issued statements asking gun owners to leave their firearms at home while visiting store locations.
In short, Open Carry Tarrant County’s well-intentioned activism has been transmuted into victory after victory for former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s pro-gun control outfit Everytown for Gun Safety, which is comprised of Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
Yet, it must be said that although Open Carry Tarrant County’s controversial approach has been sharply criticized for the fast-food chain and restaurant fallout, it has succeeded in that it’s put the spotlight on the issue. It’s got folks talking about open carry, and perhaps it’s got state lawmakers considering whether passing a law legalizing the open carry of handguns might put this whole thing to rest.
As for where the NRA fits into this whole mess, an unnamed staffer at the NRA-ILA released a statement on June 2 – allegedly, without the approval of Cox — that condemned the tactics of Open Carry Tarrant County without really distinguishing them from the more transparent and polite advocacy of Open Carry Texas making it appear as though the NRA was lumping the two organizations together and calling all forms of open carry advocacy “counterproductive.”
Open Carry Texas was quick to respond to the NRA’s statement, saying that “The NRA has refused to learn for themselves how Open Carry Texas (OCT) conducts itself other than what the liberal media and Bloomberg funded gun control extremists have falsely portrayed.”
This, of course, prompted Cox to appear on the NRA’s radio program and address the issue head-on, backtracking from and apologizing for the statement but not really clarifying whether it supports the more controversial ways in which Open Carry Tarrant County does its thing.
In the meantime, one can rest assured that gun-control advocates are loving every minute of the dysfunction and discord between these pro-gun groups. Ladd Everitt, communications director for the Coalition to Gun Violence, sent the following to Guns.com in an email:
It’s their Frankenstein moment. The NRA created this Open Carry monster and now it’s threatening to destroy them. What did they expect was going to happen after they spent four decades encouraging their supporters to “exercise their Second Amendment rights” in order to deter “tyrannical government”? The chickens are coming home to roost. There is no way out here for the NRA. By endorsing Open Carry Texas, they are endorsing a public relations nightmare that is showing millions of Americans the true face of today’s radical pro-gun movement and moving them to action. But the NRA can’t oppose Open Carry radicals because they are facing the reality of a dwindling customer base for gun industry products, and competitors like GOA and NAGR who would like nothing more than to peel off their hardcore members.
Let me add that it’s very fortunate that these Open Carry protests have not led to violence. Many of them are geared specifically at provoking conflicts with law enforcement, with Open Carry activists calling police “pigs” “mother***ers” and other profane names to their faces. Law enforcement officers in Texas and other states deserve enormous credit for responding to these provocations with nothing but restraint and professionalism. But they shouldn’t have to be subject to such abuse in the first place. Pro-gun legislators deserve condemnation for siding with anti-government radicals who make a mockery of law and order.
What are your thoughts about this whole ordeal? Do you support Open Carry Texas? Do you support Open Carry Tarrant County?